Our #mpdooh Roundup (Even The Dull Bits)

Gail Chiasson, North American Editor

While I felt that the MediaPost Digital Out-of-Home Forum didn’t quite come up to the excellent standards of the previous year’s – and that still stands – don’t get me wrong: there were certainly some good and great speakers and panelists heard throughout the day.

So here’s a final rundown of the day with some of their comments and some of my thoughts.

Joe Mandese, MediaPost editor-in-chief, and Mike Bloxham, executive director marketing of the Media Behavior Institute, got the sessions off and running, speaking of the fact that the DOOH business is innovative and creative but a confusing and challenging medium, still difficult to buy and sell, often with costly rollouts, and a share-of-mind problem. There was also talk of techies going to have to rethink the industry, because with things like Near Field Communications, gesture, biometrics and the like, there’s a whole vanishing interface.

Nokia Lumia 900 Launches In Times Square

Tim Tompkins, president of Times Square Alliance, gave a great talk about Times Square – calling it the equivalent of the Grand Canyon in terms of heavy tourism, people taking photos, and long dwell time.

We had already covered the Times Square Moment art project that he discussed earlier this month, although we did learn that he hopes to see the 10-to-15 screens currently involved increase to between 40 and 50 screens by year end, and that it may also run at other times rather than only near midnight. The aim is to give the tourists and those working in the area something unexpected and non-commercial.

Jim Harris, CEO of the Wall Street Journal Office Network, and Tricia Nichols, global lead, consumer engagement and media strategy. Gap Brand at Gap Inc., not sure how she fits that long title on a business card, Ed had solid interest from the floor.

Harris asked a lot of well-thought out, penetrating questions to Nichols about Gap’s strategy and this was one well-spoken, well-prepared, attractive respondent. She spoke of how designers sit with the marketers in the Gap Creative Center to think more about the consumer than the brand. Asked how Gap thinks about DOOH, she said that it thinks of it in terms of things like music, culture and what it brings to the shopper marketing experience.

“If you think of DOOH in silo terms, it limits the opportunities,” she said, adding that DOOH offers a huge incremental experience with point-of-purchase. “We want it to be part of showing relevancy to the consumer.”

Nichols mentioned that if media can get ahead of the creative product and if agencies can get away from the channel planning mentality, there are great opportunities for DOOH. She also discussed how consumers like loyalty programs set up especially for them via social marketing.

Gap has worked with partners like Pepsi and is open to talk to other brands as long as they work well with the Gap brand.

“We want people to bond with the brand,” she said.

Garry McGuire, CEO, RMG Networks – always a good speaker – talked about RMG’s new means of targeting airline passengers while they are in-flight, as mentioned last week.

This is really quite fascinating, allowing different ads for business class than those seen in economy, different ads at different times of day or week, different ads according to what movies are chosen to watch, and more.

With a long dwell time and a captive audience, McGuire said that Delta, where it’s already installed, had seem incredible increases in interest-to-purchase.

McGuire also assuaged fears that the new airline program would not be measurable, noting that a data server on the plane can tell who watched, for how long, and more, with reporting done monthly. And, he said, there’s only a lead time of seven days. (McGuire should talk to the airline on which I flew from New York: its screens weren’t working at all!)

A panel on where DOOH belongs in a media plan brought about such comments as:

  • ”In some cases it’s perceived as a loss leader and the least measurable but can be impactful for certain brands”
  • “There are challenges in selling it to an agency, but once it’s there the first time and shows success, it’s hard to get it off other plans”
  • “Big accounts are concerned with good creative and the dollars to fund it”
  • ”I don’t think there’ll ever be a common measurement because there are so many different types”
  • “If a client is pressing for new ideas, it can be good”
  • “The problem isn’t to get clients to go in but to do it properly”
  • “We are seeing a lot of contextual, hyper-local audience data with mobile”

Doug Pulick, senior vice-president strategic insights, NCM Media Networks, gave an insightful look at emotional engagement comparisons from focus group audiences watching a TV program vs watching a film.

Somehow, although creative usually excites me, I just couldn’t get into the creative panel on the role of DOOH in brand storytelling. It seemed to be all over the place – or maybe I was just hungry.

Some panels are just too big!

The post-lunch panel tried to hold attention but it was one of those five-persons-plus-moderator panels that I find too big and unwieldy.

I’d sooner see a solid debate between two opinionated individuals with a moderator or, at the most, a panel of three. Nevertheless, there were some good points. Among them:

  • ”We’re looking for behavioral-type data. There’s still not a lot of information for reaching the consumer when it’s meaningful.”
  • ”DOOH delivers location – the last mile before the consumer makes a transaction.”
  • “Technology is irrepressible. The industry needs cooperation between its stakeholders.”
  • ”I’d like to see more fluidity, more ability to move advertising weights around according to when wanted or needed.”
  • “Agencies are still in silos and they’re overwhelmed with thousands of people coming in to see them. Once tools are in place it will be easier.”

Eric Mauriella, senior vice-president, Possible Worldwide, spoke of Macy’s Touchscreen Kiosks in the cosmetic department, installed to keep customers in-store rather than their leaving for a mall to buy products.

The kiosks are a guidance tool for browsing and finding the right beauty products for the individual; act as inspiration; and attract a younger audience. Among results he noted were that 40 people in each of the four stores where the kiosks are located actually have interaction with them daily; that there is an average of 4 min. 30 sec. dwell time; and another 50 people a day touch the kiosks.

“People using the kiosks are more confident and more empowered to make decisions,” Mauriella said.

The next panel was the most interesting – and entertaining – of the afternoon and one of the best of the day. We’ve already written about
Nielsen’s plans to add cinema and DOOH to its AdView.

However, we have some comments from Tony Jarvis, creative director, Olympic Media Consortium that we’re running separately (see here).

The next panel ran through some of the current technologies with the best comment coming from a panelist (sorry we missed exactly whom) who said that if he had the money, he’d “put it into a Center for Rehabilitation from Technology Overload.”

It was followed by Tim Daly, president, thinaire, who ran through the basics of NFC, noting that Apple is the one company that hasn’t yet announced an iPhone or smart phone with NFC capabilities.

And sorry, the last panel of the day, was just plain dull.

One Response to “Our #mpdooh Roundup (Even The Dull Bits)”

  1. Yawn Says:

    ”DOOH delivers location – the last mile before the consumer makes a transaction.”

    Really – will DOOH operators stop saying this? Number one it’s almost always the results of trumped up proprietary studies on energy drinks or chewing gum. The studies I’ve seen always show some lift but not enough in penny profit to come close to justifying the unfortunate spend caused by DOOH capex requirements. And most often in this age of REAL data, it’s the result of a study that focus more on implied causality.

    Number two it’s wrong. Mobile (including mobile internet) will eat your shorts for lunch if you want to go down this rat hole. But the DOOH folks keep saying it for the last decade as revenue continues to be stagnant.

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